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A series in which each month we answer a question about
specific aspects of our program.
Questions:
Question: What would you recommend, based on the type of soil testing you do, for making the highest yield of corn possible on my field? Answer: First of all, take the needed soil tests far enough ahead of time to be sure there is sufficient time to receive and consider fertilizer and soil amendment recommendations, locate the required materials, and apply them in a timely manner.
For liming materials and trace elements such as iron, manganese or copper: if you intend
planting corn in the spring, plan to apply these materials the previous autumn for best response
from the crop.
Before corn is hip-high in the spring, is generally considered the time to sample in order to
see soil fertility levels at their best. (Provided that the soil is not drought stressed, that large
amounts of sulfur have not been applied in the last two to six months, and that sampling avoids
areas where nitrogen has been knifed in, or recently broadcast in large amounts. Because any
of these situations could significantly lower the soil pH and make it appear that lime is needed
when such is not the case.) Otherwise, to see soils at the lowest fertility levels sample as
soon after harvest as possible where drought is not a factor.
We count on each sample received as having been taken to correctly represent the area
being tested. (To assure soil testing is correctly achieved please see the instructions on taking
a good soil sample) That being the case, the more completely you inform us about conditions
for the corn (or any other crop) you will be raising, the previous crop including yield, and the
fertilizers previously applied, the better we can advise concerning needed soil amendments and
fertilizers.
To grow corn, nitrogen is usually the biggest question in regard to fertilization, and the most
difficult recommendation to correctly determine. So in order to properly consider nitrogen needs,
several questions need to be answered. For example, what should be a reasonably expected
yield goal? Fertilizing for each field's average yield plus 10% is usually a prudent goal to set.
Instead, too many corn growers just apply an excess of nitrogen to assure there is an ample
supply, because "it requires such a small increase in yield to pay for it."
Keep in mind that an excellent soil only requires one lb. of nitrogen (including N from
humus) for each bushel of corn produced. But poorer soils will require up to one and a half
pounds of nitrogen per bushel of corn. Any farmer who consistently applies more than one and
a half pounds of N per bushel of corn, including N from humus, legumes, manure and carryover
from the previous crop, is likely to be hurting soil fertility and nutrient uptake in relation to
calcium, copper, and perhaps even sulfur.
Such overuses will most likely not result in a reduction of yield that same year, so producers
that overuse nitrogen are slowly blind-sided as a result. When average corn yields begin dropping
don't just blame "the weather", check fertility levels too! Failing to build correct soil fertility can
easily cost corn growers 20-40 bushels of potential yield.
Yield can vary widely due to climate, especially moisture availability, so we have to rely
on those sending the soil samples to give the proper potential yield information.
Irrigation In some areas all corn is irrigated, in other areas none. We need to know if the
land is irrigated because it can influence the amount of nitrogen, sulfur and boron recommended.
Type of corn Be sure to state as clearly as possible the type of corn you intend to grow.
When a sample lists the crop as "corn", unless stated otherwise it is taken to be corn for grain,
not silage corn, sweet corn, seed corn, or popcorn, which could require quite different
recommendations.
It also matters whether you will be raising 90-day up to 110-120 day corn. 90-day corn
needs the bulk of its nitrogen early in the season. But 110-120 day corn needs adequte nitrogen
and sulfur over a longer period of time. When not specified, 110-120 day corn for grain will be
the default used for making fertilizer recommendations, since it is more widely grown in the
areas from which we receive the most samples.
Fertilizers available to you Be sure to list the fertilizers that are available for use in your
area. Most certainly nitrogen materials will be available, but which types are easiest to obtain?
The grower needs to tell us. The same goes for phosphate and potassium. Also list any liming
that has been done in the past three years as that can affect nutrient availability - and possibly
change both the amount and type of lime presently shown to be still needed for the soil.
Finally, the type of fertility program the grower wants to pursue should be stated. Most
growers choose the 'excellent' program. But unless your corn is already producing top yields,
when the costs to provide excellent yields and quality are calculated, for most growers it is too
expensive. Better to begin with a 'building' program or 'maintenance' program and stick with it
for at least three years. When fertilizer prices are high, commodity prices are low, of financing
is limited, then consider the minimum program for crop production in terms of fertility for a year
or two under such circumstances.
Perhaps this will help explain why it is important for you to inform us about more than the
fact that corn will be planted on the areas where soil tests have been taken and for which
recommendations have been requested. Just keep in mind, the information you provide along
with the soil sample is a key factor in determining the best fertilizer program to achieve the best
yield of corn.
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Question: Is it true that too much lime can be used on the soil? Answer: The first point to remember when considering this question is that every soil has different characteristics; every soil has a specific capacity to hold each of the elements supplied by any liming material.
This capacity is determined by the amount of clay and humus contained in each soil, these
being the only portions of any soil that will attract and hold plant nutrients. Once this nutrient-
holding capacity is reached, using more of any material containing the element that is already
at optimum level will only result in driving off or tying up some other nutrient that should
be there and available for use by plants growing in that soil.
Therefore, the capacity of every soil is limited when it comes to attracting and holding
calcium and magnesium, the principal elements from limestone. They can help when needed,
or hurt when prudent levels are exceeded! Calcium from gypsum can also be very helpful in
adequate amounts, but detrimental if the sulfur or the calcium it contains is enough to cause
excess thus reducing the availability of other needed nutrients.
Misunderstandings concerning whether it is possible to use too much lime continue to exist
because of the assumption that if you can apply large amounts of lime on one or more soils
somewhere in the world, then all the rest of the soils in the world can stand that much lime too!
This is not correct! It can be very costly to the farmer or grower who fails to accurately
measure what is there already, whether more is needed, and whether or not any other
needed nutrients will be adversely affected if liming is done.
As an example, a cabbage consultant had us test some soils. He was using high calcium
limestone on high pH soils to avoid club root problems. He had extremely heavy clay soils with
large nutrient-holding capacities. In the previous 7-10 years, before using our services, he had
applied a total of 14 tons per acre of high calcium limestone. His crops had continued to improve.
From our soil analysis we found that all that lime had added just enough calcium to reach
the ideal required for his soil. The soils here were so rich that all the other elements were also
still there in adequate amounts, so there was no damage due to nutrient tie-up from the large
amount of lime applied up to that point.
But now, as the tests showed, his land was to the point that using additional lime, even at
one ton per acre, would begin to cause nutrient deficiencies and result in yield reductions.
If he just kept on doing what he had been, even though it had "always" provided better crops,
his results would now begin going the other way. Simply assuming that lime should be
added for the next crop because it worked on the previous one can be a serious and
costly mistake.
So yes, this grower's soil survived and prospered by receiving 14 tons of lime over a period
of less than 10 years, but this is usually not the case; most land would suffer losses long before
that.
For example, another client - a neighbor to the client we have just mentioned - needed no
high-calcium lime at all on his soils, had never applied any, and had no problem with club root
in his cabbage fields, with a pH below 7.0. To do what his neighbor did would have been costly
to apply and detrimental to his crops because his soils were entirely different in terms of fertility
needs. Adding lime just because it worked for a neighbor, or even for another area on
the same farm, can be a serious and costly mistake.
Another company hired us to sample and analyze just over 2,000 acres. They had begun
having problems with low yields in the past few years. Once the soil test results were examined
the problem was obvious. The soils had received so much lime it had severly reduced the
capacity to attract and hold enough potassium and caused manganese and zinc deficiences in
the fields that barely had enough even before the lime was applied.
Someone had convinced the owners that you could never apply too much lime. They had
applied 6 tons per acre four years previously. Yields went up the first year, but then dropped
thereafter. Only one field had not received the lime. Fertitlity there was the best on the farm.
All other fields had dropped from 45-50 bushels to 25-30 bushels per acre soybeans - a crop
that tends to benefit greatly from adequate liming. Even with soybeans, too much lime is a
detriment.
Normally, applying lime will at least somewhat limit other essential nutrients needed by the
plants to be grown there, and the grower had better know whether this is the case before using
significant amounts of lime. When such is the case, the grower should be told that and also what
will have to be done in order to avert the problem. Just knowing the pH will not tell the
grower or his consultant this essential information.
To correctly make this type of determination concerning whether liming will help or hurt the
soil, a soil test must provide extremely accurate information.
In addition to showing what levels are there, to be useful a soil test must also show what
level should be present and if there will be too much or too little of any other element once the
liming is completed. This includes the levels of magnesium, potassium, boron, iron, copper,
manganese, and zinc. If any of these are present in borderline amounts, failing to measure and
determine that this is the case and what to do to remedy the situation if lime is used, can reduce
yields even when lime is required and correctly applied, but especially when it is used to excess.
You can use too much lime. And although we have mentioned some successful large
applications that are the exception and not the rule, keep in mind that some sandy soils would
receive too much lime at a rate of one ton per acre. The key to liming is to measure what the
soil requires, supply that need as soon as it can be feasibly done, and apply only what is needed
to do the job properly.
See also our 'MasterClass' article "The Dangers of Too Much Lime".
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Question: Are you interested in helping just a small organic gardener? Answer: Yes, we are. We gladly work with soil samples from gardens of any type. And in fact, we have made recommendations for hundreds of organic gardens within the past twelve months. But there are some considerations that should be made before you send a sample to us for analysis and recommendations.
First, if you do not regularly take soil samples, be sure to review the guidelines in
Hands-On Agronomy (see also our Soil Analysis page). The recommendations we make
can only be as good as the sample that has been taken for analysis. Too many people
make mistakes in the way they take soil samples, that wind up costing them in terms of what
could have been accomplished from the soil test they took and sent for an analysis.
Some common examples include taking the sample too deep, combining different types of
soil - like sandy areas with clay areas, or red clay combined with yellow clay - into one composite
sample, or applying materials such as lime to the soil without keeping a record of how much
and when it was applied. It generally takes three years for lime to completely break down and
there is no way of telling what will be the actual effects without that information.
If you take samples in the spring we recommend taking them before you fertilize your soil.
If you have fertilized already then wait for at least 30 days, or 2 good rains or irrigations -
whichever is longer - and consider the next two points before taking more samples. That is
because any recent applications of nitrogen (generally within the last 30 days), or moderate to
large amounts of sulfur (generally 60 - 180 days) can skew the test results making it appear there
is less calcium and magnesium in the soil than is actually the case. That may then show a false
need for lime that is not really needed and likely should not be added.
Once taken and prepared as shown below, send the sample on to us for analysis and
recommendations to supply timely treatments each fall or just after the harvest is completed.
This will give time to locate any materials that may be needed and get them applied in the
autumn to prepare for the next spring crop. Keep in mind that any depleted nutrients did not
happen in just one year, and correcting them in the proper manner will not likely happen in one
year either.
Be sure to fill out a soil submission form. If you need results quickly, once you have
checked with us as to how long a recommendation from us will take, and determined that the wait
is worth it, be sure to also request a copy of our soil submission form (available at no charge by
fax, US Mail, or click here for a printable copy) and fill it out as completely as possible. This will
enable us to get your results completed much faster and back into your hands with the best
possible recommendations.
Let us know you are organic. Be sure, if you are an organic gardener, that you point this
out to us so we can take that into account when making recommendations. Our soil submission
form has a box that should be checked if you want organic recommendations. We also work
with many conventional gardeners who expect to use the normal commercial products available
locally, and we have no way of knowing you grow organically unless you tell us.
Just be sure to plan ahead and send samples well beforehand. If you need the information
back quickly, it is not a good idea to send samples to us without checking to see how long it is
likely to take. Even then, it is only our best estimate because of late the volume of samples has
at times far exceeded our best estimations.
Some misunderstand what our soil test and evaluation is all about. Every test is carefully
considered on an individual basis and recommendations are based on the specific needs of the
soil, what is to be grown and the fertility program you select. This requires much more time per
sample than for one where just sending out the number of pounds of N-P-K to feed the plants
and a lime recommendation based solely on the soil pH is provided!
We want to help our clients achieve excellent production and the top nutrient levels for the
soil and everything they grow on it. Those who know us best understand that this is not just what
we say, but it is our commitment. It will take longer to get the recommendations to you, but it is
the only way we know to do it properly. However, if you are looking for a quick answer, or feel
you need samples back in a hurry and we cannot meet your deadline, then by checking with us
before sending the samples you would still be able to consider sending them to another lab who
could better meet your needs.
Please note we do not sell fertilizer and expect that you have, or are willing to find, the
necessary products to supply what is needed for use on your property. Our soil submission
form has a box in the lower right corner for the grower to list any specific materials they have
available for use. If these will do the job we will use them in making the recommendations for
your soil. Because of wide variations in make-up, just stating you have manure or compost
without an analysis is not sufficient for us to be able to recommend its use. Without such an
analysis, we will do our best to recommend any other correct materials to supply what is needed
for that soil. It is generally possible to find sources for these materials by checking locally or on
the Internet.
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Question: A consultant I know and respect says using the Albrecht system of soil testing has actually caused problems for one of his clients, and he recommends staying away from it. If the program really works as well as you say, how could something such as this happen? Answer: There are several possibilities that come to mind when I hear of statements such as this made by a consultant, or perhaps even a farmer or grower who has suffered a loss while trying what he is told is the Albrecht program for soil fertility.
First in my mind is the question of the validity of the soil test itself. Anyone can say they
are using the Albrecht system of soil testing. There are many tests that make such claims simply
because they use cation exchange capacity and base saturation percentages on the test they have
determined to use for making fertility recommendations. But as we have found over the years,
the measured calcium, magnesium, potassium and sodium figures can be quite different from
one lab to another.
Take calcium as an example. On the test we use, a medium to heavy soil should have
around a 68% base saturation of calcium for maximum benefit. But when the figures on the
test we use is 68%, some soil labs, testing the same soil, have shown closer to 60%, others
75%, and some even 80%. Which one is right?
In measuring magnesium, when the ideal of 12% shows on our test, in our experience
some labs may test as low as 8% on the same soil, while still calling for 10-20% magnesium
as the proper range on their test.
On a medium to heavy soil, when magnesium rises above 12% it is already causing the
soil's fertility requirements - and depending on the crop, also the yield - to suffer. So if
someone is growing corn there, and the magnesium is at 12% on our test, with calcium at 68%
as stated above, it requires 1 lb. of nitrogen to produce a bushel of corn. But if the magnesium
is raised by just 2%, it now requires 1.25 lbs of nitrogen to grow each bushel of corn.
On the other test results mentioned in the preceding paragraph, which was being used by
another consultant claiming to follow the Albrecht system, if the farmer raises the magnesium
to the recommended minimum of 10% as reflected on that test, he is actually pushing it too
high for maximum nitrogen efficiency. This would also reduce the yield of soybeans or
alfalfa on that soil. So again, how do you know what answer is right?
Sometimes the soil test has been correctly performed, but the person doing the interpretation
does not really understand what the test actually shows as needing to be done. Making incorrect
fertilizer recommendations can cause even the best fertility program to look bad.
One good way to find out who can help you is to first determine what the numbers are
supposed to be on the soil test for best results. Then sample an area that consistently produces
well, and one that consistently does poorly, and - without identifying which is the 'good' soil
and which the 'poor' - ask the consultant to choose which is which, and explain why.
Another possibility is that the farmer just partially followed the program, and as a result
it makes the program look bad to those who are observing from a distance. Even when the
Albrecht system is correctly employed, it can require as much as three years of correctly
following the recommendations to begin to see the greatest benefits. To prove the program
for yourself, choose an area large enough to justify buying and spreading the fertilizer and soil
amendments needed, but small enough to budget for follow-through on all that the soil test
shows to be needed, for three full years.
So if someone tries to tell you that the Albrecht system does not work, first find out if
they are judging it based on only one year of results. If a soil has not been receiving the
needed nutrients in correct amounts for several years, correction will likely take longer than
one year. It may happen in less time, but typically it takes three years to get the soil into good
shape.
Next consider whether the person doing the recommendation understands what the soil
test actually is showing needs to be done. Can the consultant consistently determine the
good from the bad by just looking at the soil test results? If not, how could they really
understand how to use the Albrecht system correctly in the field?
And finally consider the soil test numbers themselves. But keep in mind: the numbers
do not have to match everyone else's numbers; the big test is whether the consultant knows
what the numbers mean in the context of that particular lab's tests well enough to get the
best results in the field.
We find the greatest challenge to the use of the Albrecht system is that of helping the
farmer or grower verify for himself that all the nutrients that are shown to be missing, when
provided correctly, will result in the best yields and quality.
It is not our goal to get people to send us soil tests, but to convince them to begin in a
fashion that will allow at least a test of three years duration. It is not necessary to take our
word, or the word of anyone else, when you have proven it to yourself right on your own
soils.
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Question: What is the best course of action to take in order to correct high sodium levels in our soils? Answer: The first thing to do is to determine for sure that high sodium is actually a problem. This may sound strange, but some growers we have worked with have assumed the sodium in their soil was high when that was actually not the case at all. Most people believe that when the soil has a very high pH it is because there is a sodium problem. But this is not always the case.
It is true that most soils with a very high pH have high to excessive sodium levels.
But there are soils that have such excessive amounts of magnesium and/or potassium that are
actually causing the problem, yet sodium receives the blame.
The only way to know for sure if sodium is a problem is by measuring the actual amounts
of it, along with calcium, magnesium and potassium, in order to understand which of them
is adversely affecting the pH level in each soil. Every soil has a specific need for each of these
elements based on the nutrient-holding capacity of that particular soil. This can always be
accurately determined when a soil test is correctly pulled and sent to be analyzed.
The prevailing opinion in soil fertility management today is that one soil test is not that
different from another and each will provide enough of the correct information to make an
informed decision.
Before you accept that as fact, perform your own test. Using two sample bags, take
side-by-side cores of soil from at least 5 different places in a given area of uniform soil fertility
(see Taking a Good Soil Sample.). Send one to us and one to another lab that you decide would
be a good one. Ask for an analysis plus recommendations from each one. Take note of how
different the analysis and recommendations are by comparison. It is not our intent to be
different, but it is our intent to give correct advice.
Test Your Soil-Tester! The only way you may know for sure who is right is by setting
aside land on which you do both programs for three years to see which one makes the most
difference. For an accurate determination be sure to correctly follow through and do all that
is recommended for that particular soil.
After it is determined that too much sodium is actually the problem, it should next be
determined what the soil is actually lacking, before the proper corrective action can be taken.
The best way to solve an excess of something in the soil is by supplying any necessary
amounts of those elements that are deficient, the excess will tend to be automatically reduced.
Check Calcium levels The next consideration should be whether or not the soil contains
enough calcium, because adequate calcium actually increases soil flocculation thus helping to
increase soil porosity and allowing sodium to be leached more readily from the soil.
Sulfur or sulfates, including gypsum, should not be used to rid a soil of sodium until the
soil's calcium saturation is at least 60% or higher. If below 60%, this would require limestone,
finely ground oyster shell, laying-hen manure or some other source of material that principally
builds calcium levels. Do not consider gypsum in such cases due to the high sulfur content,
until sufficient calcium to reach 60% saturation of the soil has been added. (An exception
would be the lighter soils such as sands where adding a ton or less of gypsum by itself would
increase the calcium level in that soil to 64% or higher.)
Then Consider Gypsum Once 60% calcium has been achieved, gypsum, at one ton or
less per acre per year, would be the material of choice to use on soils with too much sodium
until the calcium reaches the maximum saturation for that particluar soil. Again, this should
be part of a determination made by the soil test used. Once that point is reached, sulfur and
sulfate fertilizers without calcium can still be used in moderate amounts to decrease any remaining
excess of sodium. Specific amounts would depend on the actual soil analysis from the land in
question.
The above % figures relate to soil tests that we process, the soil analysis from other labs will
be different, and the guidelines given above will not be specifically valid if such is the case.
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Question: Is it possible to cause problems while trying to increase soil fertility levels for improved crop resistance to drought? Answer: Yes it is! Previously we discussed a number of ways to help contribute to drought resistance for whatever crop you may decide to grow on your land (see Increasing drought resistance). However, if excessive amounts of nutrient are applied in trying to increase the soil's moisture- holding capacity, more harm than good could result.
Calcium Excess For example, adding unnecessary amounts of calcium-containing
material will "tie up" other elements as the level of available calcium is increased in the soil.
Soils that already have an adequate supply of calcium can be harmed if more is added. It
is important therefore to apply enough, but it is also important not to apply too much.
For maximum uptake of nitrogen, phosphate, potassium, and other elements, the calcium
saturation in the soil solution in the root zone must reach at least 60%, which is the minimum
we recommend for any soil. But this required calcium saturation is not assured by simply
maintaining "a good soil pH".
Soils with a pH above 8.0 can still lack so much calcium that the required 60% is not
achieved and / or maintained. The correct levels can only be determined by a soil test that
measures the soil's nutrient-holding capacity based on the amount of clay and humus present
in each soil (the cation exchange capacity). Once this capacity is determined, care should be
given so that at least 60% of each soil's holding capacity (which is ideal for light sands), and
ideally not more than 70% (for the heaviest clays), is filled with calcium.
(Warning! Due to different procedures that have been adopted by some labs to "improve"
on soil test methods, these numbers can vary widely, from much lower to much higher than
the ones on our soil test. If you use a soil test done by some other laboratory, this statement
is made to emphatically caution that the numbers given above will need to be adjusted in
order to be correctly interpreted according to their test. For instance "60%" will have a
different interpretation, does not mean the same in terms of soil fertility, on other lab's tests
as it does on ours. Therefore if you use another lab for the actual soil test, observe their
requirements, not ours, on what the proper percentages should be.
Growers or their advisors should not try to apply the 'desired numbers' specified by other
labs to the soil tests that are sent to us, nor apply our 'desired numbers' to the tests that are
sent elsewhere. The greatest proof of this is shown when side-by-side soil samples are
taken and sent to another lab and to us for analysis. Time after time the results are not even
close, and thus fertility levels determined specifically on the numbers given above will not
show the same either.)
Magnesium Excess Adequate magnesium also contributes to water-holding capacity in
correct amounts. But too much magnesium contributes to excessive water-holding capacity
and causes soil to severely compact from the effects of heavy traffic. Excessive magnesium
will "tie up" at least a portion of the available potassium in the soil. It also inhibits nitrogen
utilization in the crop.
Phosphate Excress Excessive phosphate will inhibit the availability of sulfur in the soil.
All other nutreints mentioned as necessary can be there in proper amounts, but if there is an
excess of phosphate, zinc can be tied up as a result.
This is too often the case in areas where vegetables are grown, and in areas where large
amounts of manure or compost have been applied to soils. In such cases, the higher the
phosphate, the more important it is to increase the sulfur and zinc in the soil in order for the
crops to acquire the needed amounts. Just remember that too much zinc can also tie up
phosphate, so moderation is the key if the proper amount is not yet determined.
Sulfur Excess Sulfur improves root development in the soil when present in adequate
amounts. But excessive use of sulfur can result in phosphate tie-up, which is also needed
for proper root development.
A good soil analysis can be a valuable tool in helping to avoid wasting needed soil moisture,
and in balancing soil nutrients. Using a reliable soil test that has been properly taken will provide
the guidelines needed to assure that too little or too much of any nutrient does not become a
problem for crops in terms of water utilization during dry periods. Just be sure to consider
the benefits and optimum response from both nutrients and water when a soil analysis is taken
and the soil is properly fertilized.
Our soil analysis is designed to determine excesses as well as deficiencies of the various
nutrients required for the best quality and excellent crop yields from each soil. Just let us know
how we can help.
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